I drove all over town to the big box stores and lumber yards looking for these longer dowel pins. A total waste of time. I should have searched on-line before I wasted gas. These were exactly what I was looking for. The price and shipping was very reasonable and they arrived quickly. The widget company has a great selection of sizes to choose from too. I originally found the dowels on Amazon, but decided to buy direct from WidgetCo. Glad I did.